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the more things change, the more things stay the same
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler
2006-07-23 02:27:06 UTC
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x-post from
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#45 Case Study: Thunderbird's brittle security as proof of Iang's 3rd Hypothesis in secure design: there is only one mode, and it's secure

IBM Virtualization Achieves One of Industry's Highest Security Levels,
Says Government Evaluator
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=146570

the more things change, the more things stay the same, some
reference to doing this same stuff nearly 40 years ago
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.cfm

recent post some of the stuff going back only 20-30 years
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#44 Any resources on VLIW?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#47 Any resources on VLIW?

note that I wasn't actually aware of this stuff when i was an
undergraudate. i became aware of it later on when i was asked to teach
classes. it then started to dawn on me where some of the early requests
for system integrity enhancements may have come from.

misc. past posts mentioning system assurance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#assurance
John Savard
2006-07-23 17:53:54 UTC
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:27:06 -0600, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Post by Anne & Lynn Wheeler
the more things change, the more things stay the same, some
reference to doing this same stuff nearly 40 years ago
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.cfm
Not surprising: the NSA's "Security-Enhanced Linux" includes, as its
unique security feature, something called mandatory security. A file can
be flagged as having restrictions on it, and then any program which
accesses this file, and writes on other files, causes the restrictions
to propagate.

This, of course, was one of the features of Multics, which indeed dates
from about 40 years ago.

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Anne & Lynn Wheeler
2006-07-23 19:09:20 UTC
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Post by John Savard
Not surprising: the NSA's "Security-Enhanced Linux" includes, as its
unique security feature, something called mandatory security. A file can
be flagged as having restrictions on it, and then any program which
accesses this file, and writes on other files, causes the restrictions
to propagate.
This, of course, was one of the features of Multics, which indeed dates
from about 40 years ago.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#52 the more things change, the more things stay the same

they were on the 5th floor of 545 tech sq ... while we were on the
4th floor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
Anne & Lynn Wheeler
2006-07-27 20:32:06 UTC
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re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#52 the more things change, the more things stay the same
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#53 the more things change, the more things stay the same

the following article:

How Secure Is That Device? As device software joins the larger world,
security becomes ever more vital
http://dso.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191501076

Has statements that are almost exact quotes of some statements about
virtualization made in the late 60s, nearly 40 years ago.

the article is also related to the thread raised in this crypto topic drift
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#56 The very first text editor

started with this article
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=190900759

the most recent in that thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#52 Crypt to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea?

and even more thread drift related to the subject
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#53

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