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SHARE BOF-VM software support
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Jim Bohnsack
2006-02-17 13:50:27 UTC
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Perhaps a BOF would be an appropriate gathering to answer some questions
that have been building up for me and, probably, others. I maintain VM,
z/VM 4.4, which is as current as our hardware will allow. VM is so stable
that I don't spend half of my time anymore living inside IBMLINK looking
for a PTF to fix the latest CP abend. A couple of times a year when I do
try to apply maintenance and I go to IBMLINK or whatever is the redirected
URL de jour, I flounder around trying to figure out how to order the must
current RSU and COR. I am certain that the Endicott IBM people have this
all memorized and it is very logical for them, but for the occasional
visitor, trying to figure out where to go is a real challenge.

If others have the same kind of questions and could pose them to an IBM'er
or two, perhaps a logical, easy to follow roadmap could be put
together. I'm not volunteering to lead or host a BOF because I don't have
the foggiest idea how to go about that, but I would certainly be interested
in, at least. cornering a couple of likely looking IBM'ers or other experts
such as Martha Mc. or Jim V. at skids and plying them with the beverage of
their choice to coax the secrets out of them.

Jim

Jim Bohnsack
Cornell Univ.
(607) 255-1760
David Boyes
2006-02-17 17:12:25 UTC
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Jim (what a great name! :-) this is an excellent idea and one
that we have
all tossed around in planning discussions. A BOF or even
SCIDs would be a
reasonable start to at least get the questions addressed and
then possibly put together an outline of something that could
help others with the same
issues. This is one of the many reasons SHARE is
successful; you can get
real issues nailed down because all the right people are
within arms reach.
Rather than restricting this to SHARE attendees and involving all the
SHARE politics about availability of the information, etc, could we all
collaborate on a public how-to document instead? Given SHARE's
increasingly aggressive copyright assumption and the black hole of
share.org that a large percentage of SHARE presentations are
disappearing into, it strikes me as something better done in a open
forum.

Perhaps it's time to do volume II of Mother. Topics I'd like to see
addressed:

Getting the latest service buckets for current supported releases (4.4,
5.1, 5.2)
Ordering the latest RSU on physical media
Ordering the latest RSU via electronic means (IBMlink)
Ordering the latest RSU via the Internet
Ordering a specific fix

Applying a RSU (a high-level outline) -- I think Jim has a good cookbook
for this already.

I'd be willing to contribute portions of our Introduction to VM Systems
Programming course, and the necessary infrastructure to support and host
the document.

-- db
Loren Charnley, Jr.
2006-02-17 19:48:54 UTC
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I second that motion. I will be unable to attend but am very much
interested in the subject matter.



Loren Charnley, Jr.
IT Systems Engineer
Family Dollar Stores, Inc.
***@familydollar.com
(704) 847-6961 x 2000

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When this happens..... :-) For those of us that aren't able to go to the
greatest training of them all......

Would there be a very kind soul that would be willing to take some good
notes and post them here......?? Puleeeeeeeease....

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Perhaps a BOF would be an appropriate gathering to answer some questions
that have been building up for me and, probably, others. I maintain VM,
z/VM 4.4, which is as current as our hardware will allow. VM is so stable
that I don't spend half of my time anymore living inside IBMLINK looking
for a PTF to fix the latest CP abend. A couple of times a year when I do
try to apply maintenance and I go to IBMLINK or whatever is the redirected
URL de jour, I flounder around trying to figure out how to order the must
current RSU and COR. I am certain that the Endicott IBM people have this
all memorized and it is very logical for them, but for the occasional
visitor, trying to figure out where to go is a real challenge.

If others have the same kind of questions and could pose them to an IBM'er
or two, perhaps a logical, easy to follow roadmap could be put
together. I'm not volunteering to lead or host a BOF because I don't have
the foggiest idea how to go about that, but I would certainly be interested
in, at least. cornering a couple of likely looking IBM'ers or other experts
such as Martha Mc. or Jim V. at skids and plying them with the beverage of
their choice to coax the secrets out of them.

Jim

Jim Bohnsack
Cornell Univ.
(607) 255-1760




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