I'm Back

[Stephen L. Buckles]

Hi y'all!



Although I've been a VM bigot for years, it has been ages since I've had
access to VM, let alone having responsibility for the TLC of said system
software. All I can say now is, "I'm back!"



That said, I want to build a sandbox VM system on one of my home PCs, along
with that other mainframe system, OS. What do I need to download or
purchase off the .net to emulate, as closely as possible, my office
environment, which is z/VM 5.1 (going 5.2), z/OS (1.3, 1.4, 1.6, going 1.7),
and several Linux machines under VM.

[Gianfranco Ciotti]

Stephen L. Buckles wrote:
> Hi y’all!
>
>
>
> Although I’ve been a VM bigot for years, it has been ages since I’ve had
> access to VM, let alone having responsibility for the TLC of said system
> software. All I can say now is, *“I’m back!”*
>

welcome back! ;)

> That said, I want to build a sandbox VM system on one of my home PCs,
> along with that other mainframe system, OS. What do I need to download
> or purchase off the .net to emulate, as closely as possible, my office
> environment, which is z/VM 5.1 (going 5.2), z/OS (1.3, 1.4, 1.6, going
> 1.7), and several Linux machines under VM.

theoretically if you have not licence...

practically try hercules (http://www.conmicro.cx/hercules/)

bye,

--

Gian

[Adam Thornton]

On Feb 22, 2006, at 6:55 AM, Stephen L. Buckles wrote:
> Although I’ve been a VM bigot for years, it has been ages since
> I’ve had access to VM, let alone having responsibility for the TLC
> of said system software. All I can say now is, “I’m back!”
>
> That said, I want to build a sandbox VM system on one of my home
> PCs, along with that other mainframe system, OS. What do I need to
> download or purchase off the .net to emulate, as closely as
> possible, my office environment, which is z/VM 5.1 (going 5.2), z/
> OS (1.3, 1.4, 1.6, going 1.7), and several Linux machines under VM.
Although Hercules is quite capable of doing the necessary hardware
emulation, if you get IBM to agree to sell you a license for z/VM or
z/OS on it, many of us would very much like to know how you achieved
that. Or you can legally and with no license required run VM/370r6
and MVS 3.8j. Myself, I played with VM/370r6 for a while and came to
the conclusion that it's not much fun without fullscreen XEDIT or Rexx.

Linux for S/390 or zSeries works just fine on Hercules, of course,
without any licensing issues. And now that VMWare GSX is being
released as free (has that happened yet) you could run multiple
Linuxes under it, or indeed under Xen. This will feel pretty similar.

Adam

[Rich Smrcina]

VMWare Server still in beta (I think). I downloaded the code last week
and I'm running it now on my Athlon machine. Very stable and it happily
runs virtual machine images from my VMWare Workstation.

Adam Thornton wrote:
>
> Linux for S/390 or zSeries works just fine on Hercules, of course,
> without any licensing issues. And now that VMWare GSX is being released
> as free (has that happened yet) you could run multiple Linuxes under it,
> or indeed under Xen. This will feel pretty similar.
>
> Adam
>

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[Rob van der Heij]

On 2/22/06, Edward M. Martin <***@aultman.com> wrote:

> I can run Linux for S/390 or zSeries under Hercules without any
> licensing issues.

And this makes sense if you need to develop / test code that will
eventually run on a real machine. If you only care about running
"Linux" then there would be no point to waste an order of magnitude in
speed on the machine.

Rob
--
Rob van der Heij
Velocity Software, Inc

[David Boyes]

> Just so I have it clear,
>
> I can run Linux for S/390 or zSeries under Hercules
> without any licensing issues.

No *software* licensing issues.

-- db

[Adam Thornton]

On Feb 22, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Edward M. Martin wrote:
> Hello Adam,
> Just so I have it clear,
> I can run Linux for S/390 or zSeries under Hercules without any
> licensing issues.

Yep.

You don't need a license to run Linux.

Adam

[Gianfranco Ciotti]

Alan Altmark wrote:
> On Wednesday, 02/22/2006 at 02:55 CET, Gianfranco Ciotti
> <***@findomestic.com> wrote:
>
>>theoretically if you have not licence...
>>
>>practically try hercules (http://www.conmicro.cx/hercules/)
>
>
> No, do *not* try Hercules with z/VM or z/OS. There's no "theoretically"
> about it, Gianfranco; using z/VM or z/OS without a license is stealing,
> plain and simple.

ok, you are right.

> You would be getting benefit from our hard work, but we
> would not be compensated for it.

well, I think that the *only* benefit in using z/VM or z/OS on a home PC
(_at_ _home!_) is purely cultural; moreover if I learn using them
better, I will continue to use them (better) also at work (where I have
paid *all* licences).
If you think that I can use them for other reason... I find that other
OS are more and more comfortable...

bye,

--

Gian